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09年时躲过mfc砍分红50%,当天跌近15%至22.45,到这季度前15年最高不超28,报表后似乎突破

xiangqian(xiangqian)
Shares in Manulife Financial Corp. fell more than nine per cent in trading Thursday after the insurance giant chopped its dividend by 50 per cent.
Full Story:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/manulife-stock-tanks-on-dividend-cut-1.794558
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Last Updated: 2-21
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  • MFC是传统的退休股，如今长成这样 -tdtq2009(tdtq2009); 2-20 (#198429@43)
    • 传统退休股？09年曾从42高峰到10以下,股市长期涨时variable annuity 长期定价问题,以后减市场风险,多年后才恢复过来。 -xiangqian(xiangqian); 2-20 (#198432@43) +2
    • 这就是典型的Dividend Trap，看看Telus， Fortis这些。为啥发Dividend？因为没有Grow的希望，赚多发多。和买GIC有啥区别？惦记人那点股息，人家惦记你的本金。 -renee12345(Renee); 2-20 (#198433@43)
      • 典型的国内炒股思维 -yh_abc(yh_abc); 2-20 {839} (#198434@43) +2

        FORTIS 一定是一个可以作为bond proxy 的长期stock asset

        MFC is a diversified stock geographically speaking, and I believe its values, I purchased MFC from the high of $26+ to the low of $19+ during the past 3+ years, and now it is around $33. I still believe it will grow to $40+ within the next two years due to interest drop.

        Currently, it has a dividend payment of $1.6/year, and the div yield is about 1.6/32.99=4.85%.

        If we assume it will increase dividend by 5% per year (for the past 5 years, it increases its div by about 10% every year), and we assume the div yield will come down to 4% due to interest rate reduction, we get a stock price estimate as 1.6*1.05*1.05/0.04=$44.1.

        Today I saw that MFC has been approved for its stock buy-back plan, this will further enhance the stock price down the road

        • 图你看得懂吧？浅蓝是SPY, 紫色是Nasdaq.不用说什么了。 -renee12345(Renee); 2-21 {204} (#198436@43)


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          • 就不要与美市比了,加市是发达国家极差的,一年差近20%,美元计更差。加市mfc也不是稳健,离2007高点还有30%。投资者并不都是只追求最高回报,退休股是稳又有相对好的回报 -xiangqian(xiangqian); 2-21 (#198437@43)
            • 你没有算上股息分红吧，看除息除权图MFC已创出历史新高 -zzjiang(寒江雪); 2-21 (#198438@43)
            • 我为啥说它是垃圾呢，要不和TD比一下？TD Beta还低，Forward dividend yield 还高。TD是不是加股？完爆。 -renee12345(Renee); 2-21 {204} (#198470@43)


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              • MFC在08年的时候，大伤元气，近5年，它的回报比TD RY都好。当然，相对美股美指，都是垃圾。 -thexiaxue(面朝大海); 2-21 {232} (#198474@43)


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              • TD与MFC自2000年以来“如实”对比图 -zzjiang(寒江雪); 2-24 {181} (#198604@43)

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              • 5年收益对比 -zzjiang(寒江雪); 2-24 {181} (#198605@43)

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      • 怎么没有区别？GIC和dividend的税完全不同。target at dividend是一个非常有效的投资方式。不用trash别人的风格。 -blackscraper(blackscraper); 2-24 (#198608@43)
        • 我并不是想Trash别人的投资风格，毕竟有些人只敢买GIC或者Dividend stock，风险承受能力就这么高。我更想说的是脱离total return谈Dividend 其实就是耍流氓，很多人只看到了高Dividend，没有看到机会成本，或者完全没有意识到这点，非常遗憾。 -renee12345(Renee); 2-24 (#198609@43)
    • 想赚钱，远离加股。整个加拿大市场，就没几个值得投资的股票。 -tiaokuan(vanc); 2-21 (#198435@43)
    • MFC季线图，A dividend-adjusted chart shows the total return of the asset. -zzjiang(寒江雪); 2-21 {181} (#198440@43)

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      • 09年时躲过mfc砍分红50%,当天跌近15%至22.45,到这季度前15年最高不超28,报表后似乎突破 -xiangqian(xiangqian); 2-21 {606} (#198443@43)
        Shares in Manulife Financial Corp. fell more than nine per cent in trading Thursday after the insurance giant chopped its dividend by 50 per cent.
        Full Story:
        https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/manulife-stock-tanks-on-dividend-cut-1.794558

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