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I thought you were talking about 形象, which means the social status, or how others view an racial group.

What you are saying now is another topic. :)

Yes, Obama was elected, African-Americans feel great and confident, I totally agree.

If Chow gets elected, Will Chinese Torontonians feel great and confident too? I'm quite sure some would. Also I'm quite sure some would not at all.

After all, not long time ago the Governor General was a Chinese. I don't see it was really a big deal to the Chinese communities in Canada.

Back to the initial point about 形象, when Adrienne Clarkson was in the position of Governor General, did the 形象 of Chinese-Canadians get better because of that?
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  • 枫下茶话 / 政治经济 / 每个人的所作所为,都对他/她的族裔的形象产生某种影响(正面或负面)。政客影视体育明星比多数人有更多的机会在大众面前露脸,且多为正面影响。这应该是为何黑人们不管贫富, 不管党派, 不管地域, 都投票支持奥巴马。这也同样就是华人选邹的意义。
    • 不分党派,不论政纲,不辨是非地支持黑人政客,正是美国黑人愚蠢可悲之处,顺便提一下,美国黑人生活最悲催的地方往往是黑人担任市长,警察局长,school board trustee的地方
      • 咱赞同,在美国黑人占多数的城市,黑人选市长应该看政纲。同样,要是在加拿大华人占多数的城市,华人选市长不看政纲只选华人,当然也是愚蠢可悲的。
        • Policy matters. Race should never be a factor for someone to vote. Promoting a candidate by her race is really racism.
          • Policy does matter for me if Chinese is the majority in Toronto, or Chinese had been the mayor at least once.
            • Understood what you mean. Just could not agree with it after reading the reasons you provided. :)
            •  给你看看一个G10 的孩子的看法吧,俺闺女的高见哦,所以我一般不敢用英文表达,实在没法达到孩子的水平。
              本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛This idea of supporting a leader simply for that leader's ethnicity is idiotic in itself---but, when this idea actually have some physical impact, it does the citizens of Toronto great injustice. It is irrational that the foundations of one's confidence is rooted most stubbornly in the ethnicity of the candidate. In fact, to support a candidate solely for their ethnicity is like a slap in the face to that individual. Their hard work, policies, and whatever stances that they worked so hard on merely brushed aside such trifling matters---such so that they look like fools in the eyes of other ethnicity who doe not understand. A mascot of a politician if you will. It is like discrimination only by one's own people. To follow blindly like so will have re-precautions most damaging. If an individual wants to be respected. If a minority wish to be respected, one must first respect oneself instead of planting the foundations of their confidence behind a mascot of a politician. Support a politician for their policies, not their ethnicity. To do so makes you lesser than those who discriminate. For those who discriminate or do you wrong, they are without exposure, thus resort to stereotypes and direct their displeasure to the general collective members of that ethnicity. To support a politician for their ethnicity shows both your irrationality, and your lack of good sense and judgement.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • I don't see that African-Americans has improved with their social status since Obama was elected.
      • "Barack Obama’s election as the nation’s first black president appears to be the spur for this sharp rise in optimism among African Americans."
        • I'm quite sure African-Americans felt great about that, same were black people around the world. However, one feels great of himself does not mean he is indeed regarded great.
          • Feel great, feel confident..., that's what African-Americans already earned. Is it not good? My younger son is confident to run for MP, but not for prime minister of Canada as no Chinese has win it. Man, let's make a history for our children.
            • I thought you were talking about 形象, which means the social status, or how others view an racial group.
              What you are saying now is another topic. :)

              Yes, Obama was elected, African-Americans feel great and confident, I totally agree.

              If Chow gets elected, Will Chinese Torontonians feel great and confident too? I'm quite sure some would. Also I'm quite sure some would not at all.

              After all, not long time ago the Governor General was a Chinese. I don't see it was really a big deal to the Chinese communities in Canada.

              Back to the initial point about 形象, when Adrienne Clarkson was in the position of Governor General, did the 形象 of Chinese-Canadians get better because of that?
              • Feeling great and confident are important parts of 形象 (perception). The Governor General is not elected, and then the impact is very limited. If a Chinese is the prime minister, would not it greatly change the public perception of Chinese in Canada?
                • Not really. Weed users feel great and confident but others don't perceive them in the same way. In mature societies like Canada and USA, people don't perceive a race by the race of certain elected leaders.
                  • Cornell study: Barack Obama's election changed African-American perceptions of being black
                    • It does not say that it changed other people's perception of African-Americans. On the other hand, IMHO, only an immature racial group would feel inspired when a member gets good achievement.
                      • Nteta and Greenlee’s findings dovetail with other research that documented a decline in racial prejudice during the 2008 presidential campaign — suggesting that Obama’s rise may really affect how people perceive African Americans.
                        • 1, Obama got elected because people voted for policy other than for race. 2, It reflected the maturity of American society. 3, Perceptions on African-Americans haven't been changed simply because a black politician won that election.